Protogens are the new craze!!!
^^ Art by Malice-Risu on FA / Comparison chart for Primagen VS Protogen / Primagen are a CLOSED species – Protogen are an OPEN species with common and uncommon variants being free-to-make ^^
Have you ever heard of the Primagen Species?
While you could always check out the official document on them HERE …I will go ahead and sum it up for you: Primagens were made by extraterrestrial beings in another universe. They are artificial beings (with biological bits and pieces) that are tasked with a multitude of things across the universe. They have a very raptor-like appearance and are mostly machine – however, aspects of them still seem to be organic/biological. They have visors as faces that display their emotions…and they are EXPENSIVE!
They are a closed-species, created and run by Malice-risu on FA – and the only way to obtain a Primagen is to bid on the auctions they occasionally hold on their FA page. And let me tell you, those auctions are no joke!
While the creators are nice enough to allow payments plans, I have seen a single Primagen go for well over $1200! Granted, the more you pay, the more awards are unlocked with the purchase of one’s Primagen…but still. It can get really crazy. I myself never even knew Primagens existed until my buddy Captain told me about the Primagen suit she adored and then lead me over to the creator’s page on FA. Seems like everyone wants to get their hands on one, but, with prices reaching what they do…it seems that Primagen are only for the extremely dedicated or the extremely rich.
But, don’t blame the creators. They put the ladder up with a very affordable ‘minimum bid’ and it turns into a “pay what you want” situation. And who is going to turn down $1200? I wouldn’t…
But, I am getting off track. So…Primagens. So many people want one but can never get one. So, what would you say to getting the next best thing?
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Well on April 8th, Cedar Andrews (also part of the account Malice-risu on FA) opened up a sub-species to the widely sought-after Primagens and called them: “PROTOGENS“!
So…why are they so special? Well, it’s because they are an OPEN species and therefore they are FREE to make! Well…the common and uncommon variants anyways. But, this seems to be good enough if not better for a majority of the fandom who are always teetering on the edge of ‘broke’…therefore the Protogens have exploded over the last few days, completely clogging my feed.
So…a species like this has to have rules right? Well, Cedar Andrews was sure to post those up along with a nice little anatomy chart detailing how the Protogens work:
Protogen Guidelines
☆ Protogens are an open species, you may make your own so long as it follows the species design guidelines.
☆ Some design limitations for protogens include:
– Generally no Dinosaur anatomy, as it reflects too close to Primagens.
– Their bodies are designed to be bipedal (Walks on 2 legs) so are unable to take a full feral form, but modded limb attachments can make a more feral appearance.
– STRICTLY biological ears only, Mechanical ears are one of the Prime design features of Primagen
Protogen means “prototype” so that in canon the Protogens were the first-version models of what would later become the Primagens. Pretty cool, right?
- But…what are the differences to Primagens?
A lot of people seem to be asking the same question over and over and making the same observation…and that is: “How are these different from Primagens?” because, without reading and going on sight alone, there really doesn’t seem to be too much that is different, right? Wrong. Protogens have several differences that set them apart…it’s only that most of it is what the Protogens have on inside and what they CANT do as a species. But, there are other differences as well.
- Primagens have more dinosaur-anatomy and traits. Protogens are not allowed to have ANY dinosaur traits or anatomy, thus why they have to have paws.
- Primagens are mostly artificial thus look more robotic. Protogens are still very-much biological. And no matter what, Protogens must have biological ears while Primagens have the robotic ears.
- Primagens have longer faces (because of the whole raptor-thing) and Protogens have rounded and shorter faces.
- Primagens can not eat or digest food nor open their mouths – Protogens can and must do this because they have working organs inside of them.
- Primagens can be hybrids and can also take on feral forms – Protogens can only be bipedal with no feral forms or hybrid fusions allowed.
- Protogens are not allowed to have wings unless they are of the rare variant (auction only)
So those are just a few of the differences between the species. People have still complained that this is not enough to really separate the two species, but what is done is done…and Malice-Risu says they are proud of their creation and of their species- as they should be!
- Are there Protogen Adopts?
Yes, already people have been posting Protogen adopts all over the furry groups on facebook and in the official facebook group for the species. But, you are only allowed to put up 2 adopts for sale within a 7-day period. People may only make common and uncommon variants for adopt. Rare variants can only be obtained through auction via the creators.
- Common, Uncommon, and Rare Protogen:
These can be found on the Protogen anatomy chart. Common Protogens are open and free to make. They have one set of ears and no horns. Uncommon Protogen are also open and free to make. The uncommon types have 2-sets of ears and can have basic horns. The RARE Protogen are closed and only available via adopt. Malice-Risu said these rare adopts will be at a set price unlike their Primagen auctions (but later they made them into auctions just like Primagen) – rare creatures have more than 2 sets of ears and they have horns, and they can even have wings! Other special traits such as extra visors have also been seen in the rare variants.
- Where to find Protogen:
While you can find them by checking out Malice-Risu on Furaffinity – the best place to research the Protogen and see what other people are creating is by checking out the Official Primagen & Protogen Group on Facebook!
Also these little dudes have been popping up on instagram / FA / and Furry Amino.
- MY PROTOGEN: PORTAL!
^^Art by: flamesvoices (FA) // Portal the Primogen belongs to me aka RuneAngelDragon on FA ^^
So, I did it…I jumped on the bandwagon and my buddy made me a Protogen because like a lot of other people, I don’t have hundreds and thousands of dollars to get myself a custom Primagen. And you know what? I feel like this species better suits me. I like the more biological look and feel of it while still keeping the cool display-face. I don’t mind a shorter snout…and I prefer not having the dinosaur traits and anatomy.
So yes…just in case you were wondering what the recent explosion of creatures has been on FA and in facebook groups…no, they are not robot-sergals…and don’t let anyone try and convince you otherwise / they are probably the new Protogen 😀
Thank you all so much for your continued support on this blog! Thank you for taking the time to read up on Protogens, they are a nifty little species indeed! Special thanks to Malice-Risu for opening up these guys to us…
More to come in the future! And so, as always, I will see you all in the next blog! 😉
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Dude, thats cool… i want one. Though i cant even afford a normal suit at the moment
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Well, even if you can not get a suit right away, you can still start out by making yourself a character to play around with 😀
But yes, I love Protogens!
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I love too
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If ya want a start designing a Protogen, there’s a whole site dedicated to helping artists share Protogen/Synth/Gem (though mostly protogen) art to the rest of the fandom!!
https://protohub.online
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I hope no accuses me of copyright infringement, I have a crap ton of characters that are really similar to this species.
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There are a ton of robotic creatures…and robot sergals look really similar as well. But, you might wanna check. Malice-Rsu have copyrighted a lot of their characters and they are very heavily-regulated, especially their Primagens. So just double-check if anything.
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I don’t know where you got that info, but nothing that she designed is copyrighted, much less primagen, since it’s a concept, nothing else.
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They can’t acuse you of copyright infringement even if you created a primagen.
Neither is copyrighted.
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i really just got the whole protogen fursuit!!!!! icant believe it took this long to get ONE SINGLE FURSUIT…PROTOGEN FURSUIT IN FACT!!!!! im so HaPpY :3
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Congrats! That’s so cool! 😀
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Hi!! You can Gift me the Portal Oc?
(Trying :”v
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I am sorry, but he belongs to me and I will not be giving him away any time soon. If I may offer some advice, please do not go around asking people to give you their OCs. It’s kind of rude and comes off as begging which is highly frowned upon in the fandom.
Try the Protogen facebook group and maybe see if anyone is giving away a Protogen for free or something.
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Hey there, I saw a post on furry amino saying that protogens were strictly NOT allowed to have paws, but everywhere else (including here) says that they HAVE to have them. Which is the correct?
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They must have paws. They are not allowed to have Raptor claws because those are exclusive to Primagens which are a closed species. If you check out the official facebook page for them (linked in my article) they have an anatomy chart for people to follow.
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I REALLY WANT ONE!!!!!!! YOU JUST MADE THE BEST THING IN THE UNIVERSE!!!!!!!!!
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They were created by MalicexRisu, I am just reporting on them. I am not the creator ^^;
But yes, they are really neat. Good thing Protogen are free to make, and some people even have free bases for them, so I highly suggest checking out the Official Facebook Group and getting those bases so you can make one unless you want to draw your own from scratch 🙂
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Could I make a little like.. fluffy part at the end of the tail for the protogen? Sort of like a lions fluff ball at the end of its tail
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Yes, this is within the rules as far as I know. But, if you want to get a better opinion, I highly suggest joining the Official Primagen and Protogen group on Facebook, or checking out MalicexRisu’s FA page (all linked in the blog) to double-check the guidelines.
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So… if I made a primagen OC, what would happen? Would I face legal consequences, or would I be told to fuck off?
The whole idea of a “closed species” that you can only get characters for with boatloads of money is really dumb, and it invalidates the whole “create your own persona” aspect of the fandom.
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Well considering it is copyrighted then yes, if you made a Primagen without the permission of the creators then you could face legal penalties for that. Also, you would be told by multiple people to either change it to a protogen or something else.
If you failed to comply then you would most likely face multiple bewares in Furry groups which could keep you from getting commissions or selling anything in the Furry fandom. It would also get you booted from groups.
I am not fond of closed species either, I agree it kinda breaks the whole idea of creating something that speaks to you, or being the version of yourself you want to be. However, I do not make these rules. Some people want to protect what they have created, they want to have a better handle of their species and not see it spiral out of control (like what we see often in popular open-species such as Dutch Angel Dragons). So while I do not like the idea of closed species, I see why they are the way they are…
And really what it comes down to is: Dont wanna pay all that money for a character? Don’t buy it. But don’t steal it either. Find something else that speaks to you or make something of your own.
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Sorry for my very late reply, but when you specify legal penalties, what penalties would apply? Are Primagens copyrighted/patented?
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Yes they have been copyrighted by the creators…
And even for those that have not had something patented, you have to remember that copyright exists the moment an artist creates something that is original.
Penalties would start with a cease and desist order…and after that, it would be up to the owners/creators to decide if they want to press further charges which could result in you paying fees.
I shouldn’t have to go into detail on what penalties would apply. It’s very simple: respect the creators, respect their rules, it is a closed species, don’t make one without permission.
If you do so knowing there could be legal actions against you…then you’re just a selfish prick that obviously doesn’t care about the hard work that people have put into this thing.
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so, Primagens are $$$ to make. but what about Protogens?
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—Primagens can not be made by anyone other than the creator…then they auction off the designs. So yes, you must buy them.
—Protogen are free to make, but there are species restrictions. You can make common or uncommon Protogen for free, but you can NOT make a rare Protogen (those can only be bought through auction from the creators).
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Primagen’s can’t be Copyrighted, because that law doesn’t cover concepts, designs, or ideas. Also the artist has demonstrated her ineptitude plenty by not even giving the species a name to begin with, only a classification. Species can only be identified by the organic form of a being, not cybernetic! Then she continues to stumble by labeling her prototype “species” (Protogen; *ORIGNIATING* “species”) as a subspecies. Really? You obviously have no idea how scientific classification operates, nor do you have the slightest understanding of the flow of evolutionary advancement. Element02 continues to spout out scary terms such as Legal Penalties, but all it really means is the artist will publicly shout you out to be bullied and rejected by the communities that I’m sure many of you have been apart of since before she created these dressed up rip-off’s. Making your own Primagen is fully fair game, despite the artist annoying hysterical ranting of criminal persecutions, which is ironic as can be because anyone that she blacklist could sue her right back legally for criminal harassments/embarrassment. Furthermore, Primagen/Protogen aren’t even original designs, I have stated previously that they can be picked apart and linked to many other designs. Many of which are dated back as far as 1970, long before her conceptual creation. Any artist can do the same, pulling references from many different sources and copying key things that are liked and combining them into something new. Artist do this all the time with viewer suggested livestreams, it’s called conceptual designing. All of this really is quiet trivial to me honestly, I only speak to raise awareness to others so they don’t become victims of this ridiculous witch hunt. I have already begun designing my own L.E.D. visor faced, cyber-jet-winged, raptor-like creation that is miles above the thought process of Primagen’s with a full backstory (not a mere suggested backstory).
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There has been no reply because I have nothing to say.
◼ #1: I did not create this species
◼ #2: I merely report on what the creator has said. I do not defend them or bash them for the rules they created. I am neutral.
◼ #3: This was a report on the new Protogen. Not a debate thread.
So no…I have no response. If you want to go against the creator’s rules or wishes, that is on you. I dont personally condone the behaviour, but I cant stop you either.
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Fair enough.
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No they aren’t.
Neither Primagens or protogens are copyrighted.
The law doesn’t allow anyone to copyright a concept or idea.
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Agreed!
That’s why no closed species are copyrighted! Including Primagens!
Groups like this are only a way for the creator to get money without doing a thing. Saying that they make a minimun an affordable price is ridiculous, since the minimum to start an auction for a Primagen lately is 1000$! None is sold for less!
So saying that’s not the creators fault is false, since she was the one who created the 1000$ minimum price! She’s in it for the money! It’s obvious!
Besides, she took advantage of a kid from the make a wish foundation, to publicise Primagens! Who does that?!
The kid’s last wish was to be able to own a Primagen and she said that she had to think about it and talk to the admins of the species to see how serious the disease was?! All the while announcing it everywhere?! For crying out loud! It wasn’t like it was the parents that contacted her, it was the hospital and the foundation!
If a sick kid wanted a design of whatever specie I had, I wouldn’t think twice! Even if said kid had just chickenpox! With cancer, I would give them the design and whatever merch that there was available!
I lost all of my respect for her, as soon as I found that out! And I hadn’t a lot to begin with!
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It seems my comment was not deleted, my apologies.
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No worries…but yes, if you stole a Primagen or made your own, as said before you could face legal consequences and yes, you could be blacklisted or banned from auctions in the future if the creators wanted it that way. They handle everything in a case-by-case basis so there is not “standard” for what the punishment is.
It also depends on if you cooperate with the Primagen Admins or moderators on the situation.
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hi! I would like to know if i can write stories involving just protogens on plataforms such as Amino, Facebook and Etc…?
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As long as they are not sold for profit or sent to a publishing company then yes. Creative works like art or short-stories involving protogens or primagens are allowed. I wrote a small story for one of my own Protogen…but they are copyrighted as a species so you may not publish them in a novel or claim them as your own creation. But posting them as a creative work on Amino or Facebook is okay. Just give credit to the creators of the species somewhere in those posts like you would credit a piece of art etc.
Also, because Primagen are a closed species, do not write about them unless you own one.
But writing about Protogen should be okay since they are an open-species. But, if you’re still unsure, please check out the official Primagen/Protogen facebook group (link in my article) to ask the Admins and Mods to make sure.
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thank you so much!
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I was wondering after reading the hybrid fusions part so say i was combining an Angel Dragon like Telephone and a Protogen like Portal (just using as example) would that not be allowed or is that ok to have it,like that as long as it dose not look like them.
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Well Dutchies cannot be fused with anything…and Protogens can not be hybrids either. You would be breaking 2 species rules and then copying 2 characters even though you are making something unique in the end. So no, it would still not be allowed.
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HI, I don’t know if you’re the creator or not because I’m what you call stupid. But I was wondering if when you were making a protogen could they be losely based off of another species of animal (say bear for example) you don’t have answer this I just wanted to ask
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I am not the creator. In my blog, I mentioned it is MaliceXRisu…as for the Protogen, they can have some variants on their body (like big paws and stub tails), But their visors have to have a certain look and they must stand on 2 legs. The official rules for the Protogen have been linked in the blog.
Since Protogen must have ears, I am not sure if bear-ears would be allowed because I’m not sure there was ever a solid guideline for that. So ask the creators first before making one if you can’t find the answers on your own.
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Just a question, my friend created a protogen and now we’re using it in a novel, can I specify it’s your species, and I do plan on crediting you ❤
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and yeah, I know you’re not the creator, I plan on crediting them, but I needed to contact someone
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You can contact the creators through the official facebook group (linked in my blog) or their furaffinity (also linked in my blog)—but again, if it’s a novel you are writing to get published and sell, using Protogen is illegal and you will get into legal trouble if the creators do not give you permission. But if it’s a free novel then proper credit for the species is necessary- anytime you post anything protogen related, credit to the creators is necessary,
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Protogen were created by Malice x Risu which I stated in my blog several times.
Also…if it’s a novel that is free to read, then if you credit the creators, there should not be an issue. But, if you plan on publishing and selling this novel- then using Protogen in that novel is illegal and you can get in serious trouble for doing so.
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wait so lets say i made a primates oc just for fun. Not gonna sell or show case it out to the world its just for fun. Would i get in trouble still?
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If you posted it somewhere and you were found out then yes. Most likely you would be messaged by the mod team and without cooperation would get a beware.
I mean…I understand asking questions, but it’s a pretty simple premise. Primagen are a closed-species…meaning you can’t make one. So don’t make one. Make a Protogen because those are open. It’s all about respect towards the creator, and by ignoring the rules, even for private-whatever you are still being disrespectful to the creator and their rules
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No.
The owner can only ban you from official forums, other than that, do what you want, because neither Primagens or Protogens are copyrighted.
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sorry auto correct
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If I wanted a protogen with wings, would I have to buy it? Or could I just design it myself and then pay?
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You would need to buy it because Rare Protogen are closed and you are not allowed to create your own.
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I was wondering, do you think Protogens can have weapons? I just need to know since I am making one based on a biologist and zoologist. In addition, what about clothing? Are they allowed to wear hats, gloves, socks, etc?
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From what I have seen, they can use weapons. I don’t think there are rules against clothes either so it should be fine.
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1st step. Get an idea of a fursona species they nobody ever make before
2nd step. Get a patent…
3rd step. Let everyone know about your new creation…
4th step. Make a auctions
5th step. Boom… You’re rich and half of the world saying that it was only for the money
:3
This is visualization how stupid it is… Making “rare” fursona species… Like plz… Nobody would ever do things like that unless you’re greed AF… Soon you won’t be able to do anything cause some great brain will set patent on furry itself…
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Nothing wrong with copyrighting an idea…how do you think people get credit for their inventions? Thier novels? It’s not greed…you work hard on something and you want the world to know it was you who made the idea, not whoever else comes after.
Honestly you just sound bitter and that’s a bit much to just assume that anyone that gets a patent for something is just greedy.
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Yeah, there’s nothing wrong with copyrighting your ideas, unless they cost hundreds of dollars for something that doesn’t even cost that much… 1200$ for something that won’t last long, don’t you think that you might put this cash into something else? Like into buying a car? It’s like skins, paying for cosmetic upgrade, if I can call it like that, why then they make protogens if this is almost the same? What this few additional arms or primal behaviors would give you on paper? It’s just pointless. Now imagine ppl that bought it, and suddenly primagens becoming free cause there’s no more ppl that want to buy it.
They might earn much more money if they would make it as subscription like think…
For example :
100$ – full primagen kit + (idk… 4 basic emotes?)
And that might be something that ppl would like cause when you see price like 1000$ for something that is not something material it’s like…
“WTF how stupid you have to be to buy this”
No offense for ppl who doing this but it’s really pointless…
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It’s an auction…people pay what they want to pay. The basic price is only anywhere from $50-$100 and then people decide to pay more in order to get the custom slot or character.
That’s not the creator’s fault…it’s basic supply and demand. Again, it’s your opinion but that’s not how these things work. If people are willing to waste the money, a creator has every right to provide a product whether you like it or not.
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And sorry me again, with just a little side thing, $50 is what it takes me to either eat for a week, or have enough gas to go to work for that week, but not both. Justifying a dictatorship of art by saying it has no set price point yet starting out the bids beyond most people’s price range is pretty low, especially on an art piece that anyone can easily reproduce. Then it can still be debated that just anyone can easily take the design of either the Primagen, or the Protogen and change something as minor as the percentage of cydorgification and it no longer is her patented design but someone else’s. Oh your Protogen is 40% cyborg, well my creature that looks just like it is 41%, therefore you can’t claim it so ;p. See really stupid to be this radical when it is so simple to just void the claim altogether. Just doesn’t seem fair to me or any other artist out there to basically do the same as if Disney would have a pre-claim on every Lilo and Stitch fan experiment just because they were the first to come up with the idea of “the experiment” as it’s own species. Weather it is your species or not, you can’t lay claim to OC characters created by other artist just because they used your species as the ground work for the design. Then (as in my other reply) everyone wouldn’t be able to make money off of anything, all money made would have to be given to the species inventors and not the creators, and I see a lot of creators out there using anthro wolves as their avatars (cough-cough).
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See I have my own issues with the whole “Copyrighting a creation” thing the “creator” is claiming, when her creation looks to be a major rip-off of several core design concepts from several different giants of animation creation. These can be listed anywhere from Star Wars, Pixar, and Disney, all the way linked to the Nazi German 3rd Reich. One can’t simply “create” something in our day and age and it be an original design, everything is influenced by something else, and judging from the dates of this pages first post (and the date of membership to furaffinity) the creator can’t even argue that the other listed animators may have taken from her. So I fail to understand how she can own anything other than the most basic names of Primagen/Protogen. Honestly, do you think that your average NSFW artist out there is forking over potentially millions of dollars when they produce a short X rated comic of the Looney tunes getting down and dirty to Warner Brothers, as they rack in a small fortune on Patreon to keep it going? In my opinion the only one that should be paying Copyright claims if first and foremost the Artist, for all the designs ripped-off and combined to make her creation.
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So no reply to me Element02?
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Absolutely agree!
Btw, the base prices of late Primagen auctions are of a 1000$! The creator decided that this was the minimum that she would accept
So, ElementO2, it’s not supply and demand, it’s called greed! And it’s absolutely the “creator’s” fault!
While many still want to grab an “official” Primagen, most realised that they don’t need to go broke for a drawing and began making their own Primagen and Protogen that don’t follow “her rule”! Let me tell you, the “non canon” and “illegal” Protogen are way more original than whatever the “original creator” could even think of!
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Hey would anyone mind helping me make a protogen fursona with no fee if so let me know.
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Check free furry art groups on facebook…or maybe the Amino for Protogen,
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Hey, I’ve heard that this is known as a “closed species”, I have recently made a protogen character, I do not plan to make it into a fursuit. However would I still need to send you a picture or something like that.. (I’ve never dealt with a closed species befor so please help me out here…)
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I plan to just draw this character or add it to a pin or a shirt.
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Protogen are an open species which means you can make your own without permission as long as it doesnt go against the rules or use characteristics from rare protogen. Primagen are the closed species which means you may not make one.
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I plan to just draw this character or add it to a pin or a shirt.
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I’m kinda curious. I know protogens aren’t aloud to have claws, but I was wondering if maybe that if they could have hooves. I didn’t see anything about that and so I wanted to ask before drawing out an idea I had. I wouldn’t want to cause a dispute lmao
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As far as I know hooves would be fine, but check the official facebook group or Amino to see if maybe the creators or something can answer that question before making your character.
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Alright! Thank you so much!
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No problem! 🙂
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is there a limit to how many can be made by a single person? and does the protogen need to be approved?
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There is no limit. And no, as long as you follow the rules and do not give your Protogen any features that would make it a rare variant…they do not need to be approved. But it must follow the species rules.
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So if I already have a protogen fursona and I wanted wings could I win one that had wings from a bid and use the wings on mine? Or could I recolor the one I won to match my first protogen?
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That would be up to the creators of the species. If you bid for a custom character that is rare, you might just be able to upgrade your current Protogen to a rare, but, if it’s a pre-set design you are bidding on, pretty sure you have to keep it as-is and cant upgrade your old one.
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1. Do Protogens eat and drink?
2. If so, do they do it while the visor is on?
3. Is the visor literally their head or is it a mask?
4. Are Protogens made from reproduction or are they built like how robots are?
5. Do they have normal voices of robotic voices?
6. Is their visors removable?
These are just a few questions I have, I would greatly appreciate answers.
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1. Yes, Protogen do eat and drink.
2. Yes, they do it with the visor on because the visor is a part of their body and is made of nanotech that can open, close, etc.
3. It is literally their head.
4. Protogen are built, they do not reproduce.
5. I’m not sure, you would have to ask the creators of the species.
6. Their visors can not be removed.
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me already with a crowbar ready to tear off a visor XD
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Cane i make a protogen?
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Yes, you can make a Protogen since those are an open species. You just can not make a Primagen.
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Cane i make a protogen? I just wanna gnow?
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Yes, you can make a Protogen as they are an open species. You just can not make a Primagen.
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So ima be honest, i didnt fully read the restrictions of the protogyns and primagyns
but i wanted to ask if they are constricted to wolfs? i wanted to know if it was posible to make like a bunny protogyn or smtn, i have a really cool concept design however im pretty sure its illegal to the species seeing as ive never see a protogyn thats not a wolf thing, and if it is illeagle to the protogyn can i still make one but not call it a protogyn ? or is it to similar of a concept so the protogyns for me to be allowed to create anything like that, and in which case i also wanted to say can you guys try to make one because i feel like the world needs this to exsist, X3 like cause u guys own it they may never be able to exist and thats your right but i just though its a cool idea tnx for reading :3
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(i know u dont own it im bad at phrasing sorry lol also idk if u would even know this answer)
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Okay…so a Protogen is restricted only to the features it requires which is the robotic parts listed on the diagrams, etc. Check out the links on the post to find all the rules. You can add rabbit ears, tails, etc on a Protogen, that is fine. You can even have more wolfish ears and paws. But they wouldnt have a wolf-face or rabbit-face. Again, I am not the creator, so you need to find the official groups and rules, and make sure you actually read them to understand what the species allows and does not allow.
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Hello! i just have a few questions since i just found this world of Primagens and protogens, i am just now making an oc of my protogen and i dont want to accidentally end up on the blacklist. 1. i saw the paw part in the description and was wondering if it meant no claws at all or no raptorlike claws on the paws of the protogen, I’d like to put claws on it but im not to sure if im allowed. 2. am i allowed to draw a Primagen just for fun? i wouldnt claim it as my official OC or as a main character in anything just a small little sketch for fun. 3. what are the limits to the tail of a protogens, are they allowed to have a similar tail like the protogen or is it illegal? 4. are there limits to certain types of accessory’s? sorry that was long i just want to be sure that i won’t do something wrong. sorry this is a bit late!
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As far as i know: “Closed species” is a lie, copyright doesn’t work like that. Check this out
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Closed species are a lie! Take note of this! Do your own research! They are not legally backed up, and that is why the blacklist exists! Anyone can legally create a “rare” Protogen or a Primagen OC!! Stop paying insane money to make one, and just do it!!
https://aminoapps.com/c/furry-amino/page/blog/primagens-and-protogens-problems/j04Y_XwPSKuV8x8jYEzeJ2QlwaKeR0w5vm8
Read the comments on this post!!!
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Yeah, it’s this little thing called “Respect to the Creators of the species” which you obviously missed.
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massive burn
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a closed species is not backed by law in any way, so im gonna go ahead and make one just to watch the creators babyrage because some people arent dumb enough to pay 1000$ for something you can get from someone like Boo_rad13 for 90 bucks
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Yeah it’s this little thing called “respecting the artists wishes”.
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periodt. respect
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Respect is earned, and she doesn’t deserve any! Especially after toying with the feelings of a child with cancer!
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Do I have to follow these horn types, or can I use some horns I’ve premade?
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You would have to reach out to the Creators or some of the groups where they have admins that can answer official creation questions as I know some rules on Protogen have changed with time.
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Hey so I have a question! A friend of mine is making a protogen (His first fursona actually!)
And he has a few questions, he wants to have a mechanical arm. (As though he lost an arm and had it replaced)
As well as holographics.
(IE Holographic wings, fluff, etc.)
I know it says no modular or wings on commons or uncommons, but what about holographics or total prosthetics?
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Not sure about holographics though a prosthetic arm should be fine. But again, such questions should be directed to the official groups and the creator of the species.
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Ok so, i made an oc a while back before i knew the rules of protegens, it was like a wolf with wings, i gave it a visor similar to a protegen that was meant to be able to be taken off like a mask, and display their facial expressions when worn, I’m kind of worried about if this oc is ok because it’s not actually a protegen, it doesn’t even have the same anatomy, but it’s visor/mask was based off of one, so I’m wondering if i should change it, or if it’s ok to stay as is, even though it doesn’t fully look like a protegen visor. To go into more detail, it is just a black screen with white face details that covers the whole face, with the muzzle shape of the character, it doesn’t have the circle and pokey bit at the sides of the face, and it instead has a strap around the neck to hold it on the face like a mask. And, if i need to remove it, i would appreciate some suggestions as to what else i could put on the face bc my character has scars on their face that they like to cover up
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your OC should be fine since visors are NOT exclusive to Primagen and Protogen characters and as you said, they don’t even share the same anatomy.
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Is there any way to come in contact with MalicexRisu? Their FA page has been shut down and I haven’t been able to find any other places for the creator of the primagens.
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The Official Facebook page is listed in this article and they also have the Protogen have their own Amino group using the Amino app which might have more contact links.
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